Twin — player complaint #64282, 2019-12-28: bonus terms
Twin: a player complaint filed on 2019-12-28, about bonus terms, 75 USD in dispute, status — resolved. Published on CasinoReviews. One of 27 complaints filed in English about this operator. The text below is the player's own words, as published on the source site.
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Twin have generally been very accommodating and I consider them a premium operator. Payouts are completed without a hitch and done so expediently.
Which is why I find it difficult to digest that they would allow me to seek assistance from a third party in regards to such a relatively minor some when gauged against my deposits. The dispute involves their loyalty scheme. I am a vip user with this operator. I accumulate cashback on net losses at a weekly rate of 10 percent. On Monday Nov 25 I deposited couple hundred into my account 800. After losing this amount I decided to take a break for 30 days. On the limits page there is the option to a) take a break, which I can enable on my own from the menu, and b) there is the option to self exclude, which requires the customer to contact support to initiate. The loyalty scheme that is subject to this dispute specifically excludes from participation accounts which are either excluded by the operator or are self excluded. Twin is not willing to credit cashback based on this rule.
The issue with their logic is that should I take a 24 hour break today (thursday) until tomorrow, then this upcoming Monday my account will still receive cashback on net losses accrued on monday tuesday wednesday, thursday, saturday and sunday, and be credited to my account without issue on the upcoming monday. I have received my cashback for prior instances where I took a 24 hour timeout to allow processing of withdrawals. So I find arbitrary that if a 24 hour break is allowed to accumulate cash back, then why is a 30 day break not? After all, this is not a self exclusion, which is identified as a separate and distinct control from one of taking a break. Furthermore, no where in the terms and conditions for the loyalty scheme is it stated that an account on a break or time out does not qualify. Accordingly, I believe the time out break that i took were correctly not considered and included in the terms and conditions for when the loyalty scheme provisions were drafted and published, which do expressly identify self excluded and operator excluded accounts as being not eligible to accumulate rewards from the loyalty scheme. Also, the mere fact they are individual and distinct options of actions in the gaming limits page would suggest that taking a break does not constitute a self exclusion because if this were the case then the option of time out would not be available alongside the option to self exclude and instead there would simply be one option to self exclude with different periods of time available to do so. After compounding all these factors, the there is a clear indication that taking a break is not excluded from participating in the loyalty scheme.
In any event the net losses were not accumulated during the time out period. They were in fact accumulated before the period commenced. They are not a bonus in terms of bonus funds for purposes of loyalty scheme as it is directly credited to the cash balance and not the bonus balance. So ultimately, cashback cannot be a bonus because it lacks conditions and so it is exactly that, cash that is being returned to the player and ultimately forms a part of the cash balance. The reactivation of account was not.predicated on the bonus because I have since reactivating my account made deposits with this operator. Multiple deposits in fact.
For the record Twin has been professional with myself throughout my time with them. I have deposited quite frequently there and have usually been treated well. this is not to malign their brand or otherwise in an attempt to extract a few dollars. I truly believe there is a lack of direction and information on this aspect of their loyalty scheme and it is being used to their advantage. There is no clear terms and conditions surrounding this. If I had known they would try and do this i would of simply not took a time out. The amount in dispute is not significant and I'm sure they will make the correct decision. But for the time being they are not willing to listen to my position and reconsider their decision on this matter.
Complaint data
- Case number
- #64282
- Filed
- 2019-12-28
- Status
- Resolved
- Category
- Bonus terms
- Disputed sum
- 75 USD
- Place among complaints about Twin
- 27 of 27 by date, newest first
- Source
- CasinoReviews — original ↗
- Text
- 724 words, as published
All 27 English-language complaints about Twin — as a list by date; the summary, statuses and disputed sums are on the operator page.
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