# nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context

Guides context parallelism sizing and selective recompute for long-context MoE training in Megatron Bridge.

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- Author: NVIDIA
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- Source: https://github.com/NVIDIA/skills/tree/HEAD/skills/nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context/SKILL.md
- Updated: 2026-10-23
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## What it does

This skill provides concrete tuning patterns for training MoE models beyond the 4K sequence limit in Megatron Bridge. When context grows, activation memory quickly becomes the primary bottleneck. The guide starts from a baseline heuristic of `CP ~= seq_len / 4096`, rounded to a power of two. It favors selective recomputation on `norm`, `mlp`, or `moe` blocks over full attention recompute.

Recipes derive from tested DSV3 setups on H100 up to 256K and Qwen3 235B runs on GB200 using DeepEP and HybridEP dispatchers. The true constraint quickly becomes cluster size. Higher context parallelism rapidly drains the data parallelism budget, forcing a reduction in global batch size.

CUDA graphs require fixed micro-batch sizes and static shapes. If a training pipeline relies on variable-length batches or opportunistic padding, CUDA graphs fail and eager execution is preferred.

## Install

### Claude Code (native platform)

1. **Skills CLI (Vercel)**
```bash
npx skills add NVIDIA/skills --skill nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context -a claude-code
```

2. **Manually: put the files in place**
- File: `~/.claude/skills/nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context/SKILL.md` — Copy the whole skill folder; for one project use .claude/skills/nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context/

### Codex

1. **Skills CLI (Vercel)**
```bash
npx skills add NVIDIA/skills --skill nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context -a codex
```

2. **Manually: put the files in place**
- File: `.agents/skills/nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context/SKILL.md` — For all projects use ~/.agents/skills/

### Cursor

1. **Skills CLI (Vercel)**
```bash
npx skills add NVIDIA/skills --skill nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context -a cursor
```

2. **Manually: put the files in place**
- File: `.cursor/skills/nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context/SKILL.md` — Cursor also reads .agents/skills/ and .claude/skills/

### GitHub Copilot

1. **GitHub CLI**
```bash
gh skill install NVIDIA/skills nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context
```

2. **Manually: put the files in place**
- File: `.github/skills/nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context/SKILL.md`

### Gemini CLI

1. **Skills CLI (Vercel)**
```bash
npx skills add NVIDIA/skills --skill nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context -a gemini-cli
```

2. **Platform CLI**
```bash
gemini skills install https://github.com/NVIDIA/skills --path skills/nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context
```

### Windsurf (Devin Desktop)

**Manually: put the files in place**
- File: `.devin/skills/nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context/SKILL.md` — The legacy .windsurf/skills/ path still works

### OpenCode

**Skills CLI (Vercel)**
```bash
npx skills add NVIDIA/skills --skill nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context -a opencode
```

### Claude.ai

**Claude.ai**
- Zip the folder and upload it in Settings → Capabilities → Skills

Where a file is given instead of a command, copy the files from the source to that path: https://github.com/NVIDIA/skills/tree/HEAD/skills/nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context/SKILL.md

## When to use it
- size context parallelism for sequences up to 256K
- resolve long-context MoE out-of-memory errors
- configure selective recomputation without recomputing attention internals
- set up DeepEP and HybridEP dispatchers on H100 and GB200

## Example prompts
- Calculate CP and recompute strategy for DSV3 at 128K context on H100
- How should I configure HybridEP and parallelism for Qwen3 235B on GB200?
- Debug long-context MoE OOM errors in Megatron Bridge

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name: nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context
description: Long-context MoE training guidance for Megatron Bridge. Covers CP sizing, selective recompute, dispatcher choices, and practical patterns from DSV3, Qwen3, and Qwen3-Next long-context experiments.
license: Apache-2.0
when_to_use: Training MoE at long sequence lengths, or investigating a commit that caused long-context MoE OOM or degraded throughput; 'long context MoE', '128k tokens', 'CP sizing for long sequences', 'selective recompute long context', 'MoE long-context OOM'.
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# MoE Long-Context Training

Stable docs: @docs/training/moe-optimization.md
Card: @skills/nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-long-context/card.yaml

## What Changes At Long Context

Once sequence length moves well past the 4K-class regime, attention memory and
activation residency become the dominant constraints. For MoE models, that
usually means you need some combination of:

- context parallelism
- selective recompute
- lower precision
- CPU offload for optimizer state
- a dispatcher and PP layout that do not waste the smaller remaining DP budget

## Rounded Scaling Patterns

### DSV3 on H100

The DSV3 long-context runs show a stable pattern:

- selective recompute works better than full recompute once you move past the
  shortest contexts
- throughput stays in a fairly narrow band from mid-length through very long
  contexts if CP is increased appropriately
- the trade shifts from "memory fit" to "GPU-count feasibility" as CP grows

In other words, long context does not immediately collapse utilization if the
layout is chosen well, but it does consume the DP budget very quickly.

### Qwen3-Next on GB200

Qwen3-Next behaves more like a memory-sensitive medium-scale model:

- 8K and 32K remain practical with moderate CP
- 64K is possible, but the throughput drop is noticeable and memory becomes
  much tighter
- pipeline layout and grouped-GEMM improvements matter almost as much as CP

### Qwen3 235B on GB200

Qwen3 235B shows that long context can still be efficient on NVL72 systems when
TP, CP, and HybridEP are coordinated. The best 128K-class configurations are
not just "fit-only" recipes; they can remain highly efficient if routing,
parallelism, and recompute are balanced.

## CP Sizing Rules Of Thumb

1. **Start from a 4K shard target**: a good first guess is
   `CP ~= seq_len / 4096`, then round to a practical power-of-two layout.

2. **Keep DP alive if possible**: long-context scaling becomes brittle once CP,
   EP, TP, and PP together squeeze DP down to the floor.

3. **Prefer selective recompute**: recompute modules such as `up_proj`, `norm`,
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