# customer-interviews

A skill that walks you through customer interviews aimed at root pain and real triggers, not a wishlist of features. Useful for PMs and founders.

- skill · `type=skill` · Claude Code, Codex, Cursor, GitHub Copilot, Gemini CLI, OpenCode · 466 installs · ★ 1434
- Author: RefoundAI
- License: MIT · policy=mirror · the beginning of the file is at the end of this page
- Source: https://github.com/RefoundAI/lenny-skills/tree/HEAD/skills/customer-interviews/SKILL.md
- Updated: 2026-07-16
- HTML: https://affpapa.org/en/nevibecode/skills/customer-interviews

## What it does

The skill runs four steps: define the objective and user segment before recruiting, draft a guide of open-ended questions, synthesize notes to separate polite encouragement from genuine pull, then judge whether the pain is strong enough to justify a new solution.

It carries principles drawn from Lenny's Podcast and Newsletter: find the causal event that made someone say today is the day, watch for friction users cannot articulate, and actively hunt for evidence that disproves your assumption. Ready-made questions are included, such as asking what happened when the person started looking for a fix. Common mistakes get flagged too: leading the witness, stopping at feature requests, running a discovery call as a sales pitch.

Seven frameworks back the advice, among them Jobs-to-be-Done, Teresa Torres' story-based technique, and the 7–14 interview range — under seven leaves too little data, over fourteen brings diminishing returns. The full artifact list sits in `references/artifacts.md`, guest insights in `references/guest-insights.md`. Show up without a written guide and the skill will make you draft one first, because otherwise the conversation drifts back into a pitch.

## Install

### Claude Code (native platform)

1. **Skills CLI (Vercel)**
```bash
npx skills add RefoundAI/lenny-skills --skill customer-interviews -a claude-code
```

2. **Manually: put the files in place**
- File: `~/.claude/skills/customer-interviews/SKILL.md` — Copy the whole skill folder; for one project use .claude/skills/customer-interviews/

### Codex

1. **Skills CLI (Vercel)**
```bash
npx skills add RefoundAI/lenny-skills --skill customer-interviews -a codex
```

2. **Manually: put the files in place**
- File: `.agents/skills/customer-interviews/SKILL.md` — For all projects use ~/.agents/skills/

### Cursor

1. **Skills CLI (Vercel)**
```bash
npx skills add RefoundAI/lenny-skills --skill customer-interviews -a cursor
```

2. **Manually: put the files in place**
- File: `.cursor/skills/customer-interviews/SKILL.md` — Cursor also reads .agents/skills/ and .claude/skills/

### GitHub Copilot

1. **GitHub CLI**
```bash
gh skill install RefoundAI/lenny-skills customer-interviews
```

2. **Manually: put the files in place**
- File: `.github/skills/customer-interviews/SKILL.md`

### Gemini CLI

1. **Skills CLI (Vercel)**
```bash
npx skills add RefoundAI/lenny-skills --skill customer-interviews -a gemini-cli
```

2. **Platform CLI**
```bash
gemini skills install https://github.com/RefoundAI/lenny-skills --path skills/customer-interviews
```

### Windsurf (Devin Desktop)

**Manually: put the files in place**
- File: `.devin/skills/customer-interviews/SKILL.md` — The legacy .windsurf/skills/ path still works

### OpenCode

**Skills CLI (Vercel)**
```bash
npx skills add RefoundAI/lenny-skills --skill customer-interviews -a opencode
```

### Claude.ai

**Claude.ai**
- Zip the folder and upload it in Settings → Capabilities → Skills

Where a file is given instead of a command, copy the files from the source to that path: https://github.com/RefoundAI/lenny-skills/tree/HEAD/skills/customer-interviews/SKILL.md

## When to use it
- set an interview objective and pick a segment before recruiting
- write a guide of open-ended questions about past behavior
- tell polite encouragement apart from real pull
- pin down the struggling moment that triggered a change
- catch mistakes like leading questions or pitching instead of listening

## Example prompts
- help me draft an interview guide for churned users
- go through my notes from five interviews and mark pain versus politeness
- check my question list for leading wording

## Source text · SKILL.md · MIT

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description: Help users conduct high-impact customer interviews that move beyond surface-level feature requests to identify root emotional frustrations and specific causal triggers.
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# Mastering Customer Interviews

Uncover deep user pain and behavioral triggers to build products people actually need.

Help the user with mastering customer interviews using insights from 11 guests and posts across Lenny's Podcast and Newsletter.

## How to Help

1. **Define objectives** - Identify the specific problem area or user segment you want to explore before recruiting participants.
2. **Draft the guide** - Create open-ended questions that focus on past behaviors and struggling moments rather than hypothetical opinions.
3. **Synthesize findings** - Analyze interview notes to distinguish between polite encouragement and genuine user pull.
4. **Validate pain** - Evaluate whether the identified problems are painful enough to warrant a new solution or behavioral change.

## Core Principles

### Focus on causal triggers
Bob Moesta: "And so the real heart of the method of Jobs to Be Done is understanding the causation of what pushes people to say, 'Today's the day I got to do something different.'"

Interviews should uncover the specific events and context that led to a change in behavior. Understanding the struggling moment makes seemingly irrational user choices appear rational.

### Observe unarticulated pain
Jag Duggal: "You make sure that you focus on customer discovery before you start building. You make sure that that discovery is focused not simply on asking the customer, but on innovating on their behalf."

Effective research goes beyond listening to explicit requests by observing users in their natural environment. This reveals friction points that users may not be able to describe.

### Actively seek disproof
Shaun Clowes: "Avoid availability or confirmation bias. Most of the time people go talk to the people they always talk to and they learn nothing particularly new. They don't synthesize the results that they got from that conversation. They don't seek out the counterfactual, they don't seek out the proof that they're wrong."

To avoid confirmation bias, you must intentionally seek out data points that disprove your current assumptions. Learning is maximized when you find counterfactual perspectives.

### Prioritize direct observation
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